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Old Nov 15, 2006, 01:42 AM // 01:42   #1
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Been reading these forums a lot lately, and I've seen lotsa people complain about Nerfs, PUGs, Heroes, Drop Rates... Was thinking, am I the only one who's not complaining. I liked GW how it was when I started playing, like it how it is now. That's all.

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Old Nov 15, 2006, 01:46 AM // 01:46   #2
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I'm still enjoying the game myself, nice to know I'm not the only one also. I liked it before the ai change, but like it even more now. I'm having fun with my dervish and paragon characters, then later I'll bring the rest of my characters through.
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 01:52 AM // 01:52   #3
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I've noticed that there's a lot more complainers here than there are in game. Not quite sure why that is exactly.

Not like I'm complaining. I'm having fun with the game.
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 01:55 AM // 01:55   #4
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Yea, think about it for a second though. People are more likely to respond to negative comments than they are to positive ones. Look at all the liberals in America. You don't see them marching to the white house to tell the government what a wonderful job they are doing. Don't get discouraged by the number of complaints people make on forums or surveys or anything like this because that isn't a fair representation of the overal population.
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 01:56 AM // 01:56   #5
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Yeah, i agree, i dont complain much and when i do its usually about another player, not so much something that ANET has done.

However, with a larger population of players comes a larger population of people, some of which have a thing for complaining about everything.
For them I dont think its so much that they hate the game, its more like they are mad for a little bit because they lost something that they liked.
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 01:58 AM // 01:58   #6
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Those people are why God gave us a Q button on our keyboard. QQ.
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00   #7
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Yeah, with all the complaining that goes on here, you'd think that GW was a horribly crappy game. I'm having tons of fun even after a year and a half of playing. People just tend to think they have more entitlement to things and so they complain more.

But no...you're not alone in that you're enjoying the game and don't complain, most GW players just play the game.
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 02:09 AM // 02:09   #8
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Great post Valon. I love Guild Wars and I have enjoyed Factions and Nightfall. Anytime Anet has nerfed a skill or build that I use, I just research and adapt and so far I haven't had any problems playing any of my characters.

With such a positive thread, I refuse to put any class of player down in my post, but I will say this: With 3 campaigns and SO many things to do and ways to play, you'd think everyone would find a way to enjoy the game.
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 02:10 AM // 02:10   #9
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I'm having a good time . . . . I can't farm as well, but Ive been getting good drops. In one day I got 4 Monstrous Fangs, 2 Margonite Keys and 1 Ruby, just playing missions. :-D
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 02:22 AM // 02:22   #10
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Ummm what's with the adding of the gold selling link in the quoted post, Judiketty?
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 02:26 AM // 02:26   #11
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I think a player's satisfaction with GW is roughly proportional to how long he or she has been playing. I've been at it for 3 1/2 months and have enjoyed it immensely. Though I think I choose the wrong secondary for my first character so I haven't completed many missions. Plus I have no Elites to make any respectable builds for PuG groups or PvP. But I like to be challenged and I'll get through the game eventually. I have 3 characters ,one for each game,to max out and explore with.
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27   #12
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I complain about people who complain. Every update I look at and have fun with it because you can adapt to the game as it changes. I mean cmon i dont want to sit around with the same boring fow groups having an SS necro and nukers taking care of everything, the changes make you change the way you fight. And it wont hurt you doing so. The only update i didnt like was the tengu farming nerf, i wuvved tengu!!!
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 02:33 AM // 02:33   #13
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Ummm what's with the adding of the gold selling link in the quoted post, Judiketty?
Good Question! Hope the mods jump all over that little piece of work.

Back on Topic: I've got no complaints about drops. I've only ever gotten 1 or 2 "uber-leet" items the whole time I've been playing, so the rare Black dye is a nice "w00t" moment for me.

People are going to find anyexcuse to complain about things. Some things are legitimate (lag, broken quests, etc.), other things are just "boo-hoo, poor me" nonsense
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 03:27 AM // 03:27   #14
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I have a hard time complaining about this game...

If you believed the threads you'd think no one plays Factions, no one farms, and no one joins PuG's anymore.

But people still play Factions, farm with their farmers, and join PuG's.
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 03:28 AM // 03:28   #15
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I have a hard time complaining about this game...

If you believed the threads you'd think no one plays Factions, no one farms, and no one joins PuG's anymore.

But people still play Factions, farm with their farmers, and join PuG's.
Also, GW is supposedly dead.
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 03:29 AM // 03:29   #16
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Been reading these forums a lot lately, and I've seen lotsa people complain about Nerfs, PUGs, Heroes, Drop Rates... Was thinking, am I the only one who's not complaining. I liked GW how it was when I started playing, like it how it is now. That's all.

dont let it bother you, lots of boring ungrateful complaining bastards lately

as for me i love gw to bits
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 05:44 AM // 05:44   #17
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Thanks for the thread. Ive enjoyed GW since its release, and played it both casually and obsessively. Still am. Nightfall rocks my socks off.

I sometimes get the feelin that people want GW to be their lifestyle game, and panic about every update, go berzerk on a bug etc. Casual gameplay for hardcore gamers...some ppl just have to adjust. I take the game for what it is, and if summin doesnt feel right, i get over it.

Its like buying Battlefield 2 and complaining ur tank doesnt drive fast enough.
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 05:48 AM // 05:48   #18
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Your Definatly not the only one I still love and enjoy this game just as much as I did before. I look at the improvemts more then i look at the bad changes in almost any situation - including guild wars. Although all of the complaints people have, I find nightfall to be the best yet
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 05:51 AM // 05:51   #19
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Been reading these forums a lot lately, and I've seen lotsa people complain about Nerfs, PUGs, Heroes, Drop Rates... Was thinking, am I the only one who's not complaining. I liked GW how it was when I started playing, like it how it is now. That's all.

These complaining threads about the other complaining threads pop more..whine about the whine here piggy piggy piggy
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 06:08 AM // 06:08   #20
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Eh, I think the complaints are a combination of factors...

1) Most people who enjoy the game are generally playing it in their free time, with little extra time to go visiting forums. This means fewer posts from people like that. Most people who generally have problems with the game have more time, because they're not playing it, and thus find their way onto forums to express their displeasure. This means more posts from people like that.

2) Anet has made it very obvious that they listen to their fans on a regular basis. The more they listen, the more the fans will talk. It is understood that expressing dislike for a feature, or mechanic of the game will eventually be seen by the devs, if expressed often enough, and generally fixed. This means increasingly more and more negative posts, as people find things they dislike.

3) This game is aging. It's reaching a point of becomming off-balance with updates. If the game remains static in any way, people will complain of how boring it is (you know the posts I mean). If the game changes in any way, people will complain about how great it was before the change (you know the posts I mean, here, too). This is a delicate conundrum.

I don't like calling people whiners. I always try to listen (or read) and understand people's point of view, whether I agree with them or not. Just don't let all the negative posts fool you. They don't represent how all the players feel (see #1), but they do serve a noble goal (see #2). For that, I am thankful for them.

Otherwise, I still love this game. Nightfall especially. The devs did a terrific job - aside from the missing content and bugs. But hey, nobody's perfect, right?
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